Opening night film for Fantastic Fest was the premiere of The Human Centipede II and Tom Six was there in his white suit and cowboy hat, with his centi-babes on his arms. I got to sit with Six and discuss the specific details of the sequel, with spoilers if you haven’t yet heard what got the film banned in England. This time, a deranged fan of the film The Human Centipede kidnaps people, including actress Ashlynn Yennie, to recreate the work of the film’s Dr. Heiter.
The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) opens this Friday, October 7th in select theaters.
CraveOnline: Is this the most anticipated sequel of the year?
Tom Six: Well, they say it so it’s a very big pressure for me. It’s spread like an aggressive fire all over the world.
When 'South Park' did the episode 'Human CentiPad,' how did that make you feel?
Humbled and honored. I love South Park. That they did this film is crazy.
Have you heard that Beavis and Butt-Head are going to be reviewing it?
Yeah, I saw on television some previews for the new show and they’re opening with it I believe so it’s great. I love it.
I have some very important medical questions.
What happens to urine? Do they all pee at once?
No, in their own rhythm I think. You saw the girl pissing at one time. They’re free to piss and it’s totally off [the tract.]
Sh*t is actually waste, so how is that supposed to nourish the other parts?
The doctor told me that if the feces is not attacked by outside bacteria, it’s going directly from one system into the other system, to keep you alive you have to get fluids and vitamins. You could keep the people in the centipede alive for a long time like that. If you sh*t on the floor and it lies there for a time, then bacteria start developing. If you eat that, then you get sick. But real medical stuff you’re talking about, that’s what the doctor told me.
What would your line be between infamy and exploitation?
I like controversial things, creating those things but I like to add intelligence with it. That’s my thing. All the fun for me is making something where people cringe or react or get emotional. That’s where all my fun as a filmmaker is. That gives you notoriety if you do things like that but I can’t help it. It’s just what makes it fun for me. Exploitation, I don’t do it for the sake of being dirty. Behind everything, because the first one is very psychological, but the fans asked for more. When I had the basic idea, you would immediately think, “Oh, you have to see the sh*t maybe also.” So that was my second idea, to use that in the second one.
What does it say about where society is that it takes a human centipede to shock us?
Yeah, people want more thrills, more thrills. It’s just western society also. Theme parks, people want bigger rides, faster rides. It’s just we are so bored. We have money enough in the western world, we can feed ourselves, and we just need constantly new impulses to get satisfied almost. So people ask for films that are gross or worse because nowadays you have to to get noticed almost.
And we’ve seen everything with Saw and Hostel.
So we have to cross boundaries to get people to notice things.
Does it make you worry about what the next boundary will be?
No, no. I’m looking forward to it almost.
Do you see the point of people who suggest these things shouldn’t exist?
No, I totally disagree of course. Everybody has very dirty thoughts themselves. Even the nicest [people do], because human beings are the most cruel animals on the planet of course. We can behave very nicely but everybody has really sick thoughts in their mind. Everybody, everybody. So when wars break up, you see people do the most terrible things. Well, before the war they were always very nice. So it’s in us.
And if it weren’t you, wouldn’t somebody else make a human centipede?
When 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' came out, that was the most intense, visceral horror movie. Do you see this as the extension of several generations trying to top that?
It evolves. A man with a chainsaw we’ve seen so many times so people are looking for new ideas and new ways to get scared by films. Luckily there are a few filmmakers that find new ideas and then hopefully that will continue.
But now 'Texas Chainsaw' is the minimum you have to hit. You can’t do less than that.
It’s a classic. It’s brilliant. You also have different kinds of horror. A man with a chainsaw chasing you is a totally different horror than being attached to an ass. That’s another way of horror so you have also those different feelings people have. Some are afraid of spiders so if they see a horror film about spiders they can be much more scared than seeing a guy with a chainsaw. It just depends.
So it wasn’t enough to just f*** the centipede. You had to wrap it in barbed wire too?
No, no, Martin is abused as a child and when people get abused, later on in life a lot of people become prostitutes because they can’t channel their sexuality. They want pain almost like they had when they were abused. You see that with lots of cases. This guy needs the pain.
Have you ever heard from the actresses who turned down 'Human Centipede 1?'
A few of the actresses I cast, they were so disappointed. Some of them left. They thought I was a pervert and a European idiot. Later I heard from a few that said, “I was so stupid for walking away.”
Tell us about the prosthetic asses.
Well, they really copied the asses so they had to sit in this latex mold so the entire ass is like a very thin layer of latex. I really wanted to see lots of butts this time. The first film, it was a little covered between the clinical bandages. Now you see much more. It almost looks like they’re really attached to the ass. So they did an amazing job with that.
How did you get the sh*t to spray right in camera?
That’s a little digital effect and a little real effect because the guys took the poop in their mouth and they splattered it out.
I really enjoy the meta horror movies, but I’ve never seen the meta make it scary. Was that a different take on being self-referential?
Yeah, because at festivals, so many people said, “What if a maniac out there copies your idea?” That idea is so great I think. I’ve never seen that before in a direct sequel that the first film is just a film. It’s so much scarier. Dr. Heiter is a surgeon and he does it all very clinical, the operation and stuff. I think that’s not as bad as some guy who just takes his kitchen drawer and does it on the dirty floor.
Were there things you thought 'Wes Craven’s New Nightmare' or the 'Scream' movies got wrong?
No, not particularly. But usually when I see a sequel, I’m disappointed because they try to copy the original one and usually that fails. They always want to copy what worked. Part one was a success and they try to make it exactly the same again, like with another doctor or something. That would have failed. This is completely the opposite and I like that.
I wanted to be in Ashlynn’s head to explore what she thought of being in the scene from the movie she starred in. Did you have to make Ashlynn a different character than she played in the first movie?
Yeah, I asked her to play Ms. Yennie so she’s not actually herself. She plays herself but a spoiled actress. So she copies very spoiled actresses which you have in real life as well. She plays herself but plays a different actress.
Is there a role for Ashlynn in 'Human Centipede 3?'
Maybe. I’m not going to tell anything about the casting but it’s going to be pretty cool.
You say you’re putting all the rest of your ideas in 3. What if you make 3 and then have more ideas?
No, no. I really stick with that because I’m fed up with it then. I don’t want to make a fourth for the money or something like that. I’m not interested in that. I just want to have my complete vision on the table and that’s it.
I have faith in the creative process though. I bet you’ll have genuine creative ideas for 'Human Centipede 4.'
No, I’m going to do a totally different film after that, after the third one and that has a really creative idea again. Totally different films than the Centipede. It’s going to be a psychological horror film and it’s going to be a mindf*** for a lot of people too I think.
Will it still disturb people?
In another way.
Centipede means 100 feet. Will Human Centipede 3 have 50 people?
Well, maybe, maybe. You have to wait for that to see what happens.
It’s not 100 hands or feet. It’s 100 feet.
Exactly, I know. You have to wait for that what’s going to happen.
What is your production schedule for the third one?
We hope we can start it in the beginning of next year.
I understand you want to stop at a trilogy, but may I suggest a fourth part? Human Millipede.
Well, this is already almost a millipede because so many people are attached.
Millipede is 1000 feet, so you need 500 people.
Maybe in the third one, maybe.
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